“There are people out there who want what I bring to the table. All of it — the technical knowledge, the perspective, the personality that goes with. And it’s my job to find them.” —Jacquette Timmons
NOTE: This episode is part of Season 5, a short series where I share conversations I’ve had with my heroes and role models. My hope in sharing these conversations is that you’ll pick up something that inspires and motivates you. More importantly, I hope these chats move you to sit down and have similar chats with your role models and heroes.
My guest hero today is Jacquette Timmons. I first noticed her while attending a conference in 2016. What caught my attention was her infectious energy and positivity about the topic of her speech and the genuinely warm interactions she was having off-stage. I thought to myself, WHO IS THIS WOMAN? This is one woman I’d like to get to know. I googled her when I got back home and have been following her online – thank goodness for Instagram – ever since.
Jacquette Timmons is a financial behaviorist and the CEO of Sterling Investment Management. She is the author of Financial Intimacy: How to Create a Healthy Relationship With Your Money and Your Mate.
She speaks, writes, and coaches about our relationship with money, integrating psychology, financial management, and emotions into the discussion, because of course money is an emotional topic.
Jacquette brings decades of experience into her work and has appeared on Good Morning America, CNN, Bloomberg Radio, Women of Power TV and has been quoted on several journals and blogs.
She is a New Yorker and an avid runner. You may just catch her running around Brooklyn in the mornings. She is definitely one of my heroes and one of the people whose work inspires me.
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With regards to your question about “Do what you love, follow your passion”, I think it is important for those elements to be present in whatever you do. Because you spend a lot of time doing it and how awful would it be to do a job that you just absolutely hate? Although we know a lot of people that do it for a variety of reasons and so no judgment on them.
Having said that, I do think that there is some caution that needs to be added to the notion of doing what you love, following your passion, because you need to be clear around, are you doing that as a hobby, or are you doing that as a business?
I think the people who make that statement are definitely coming out with the right intention. They want people to feel a sense of joy because why spend your days doing very joy-less things if you can avoid it. But I think the reality is, if you can’t make a living doing it, then it’s not going to be the thing that’s going to then grow the joy. It’s not going to be the thing that fuels your passion. And so you’ve just got to be really clear and really honest with yourself. Are you, are you mastering a hobby or are you building a business?
I’m not sure my career goals have changed. I think what I’ve gotten better at doing is articulating my goals. And I think the other aspect of it is just getting better at having a business model that supports the goal. And that makes me achieving the goal, a viable endeavor.
In terms of defining success, for me, it is making sure that I can continue to live my life on my own terms without sacrificing my future. That means making sure that I can run my business the way that I want to run it. But I’m also then making the money that I need to make to not only take care of my current day needs and goals and desires, but my future needs goals and desires as well.
I’m a warm person and I am the kind of person who wants to make sure that everybody feels heard. If you think back to the playground, I’m the one that’s like, Do you want to be my friend? I grew up in a time on Wall Street, in the eighties and nineties, that wasn’t something that was really kind of advocated or embraced. And I think I tried to play that down. And [my coach] was like, ‘No, that is your asset’.
I got to the point where I felt more confident and comfortable in my skin so that if it meant that you and I didn’t vibe, cool. I’m not your person. I’m going to find my people. I think that’s what it came down to. There are people out there who want what I bring to the table and all of it, you know, not only the technical knowledge, but also the perspective and the personality that goes with, and it’s my job to find them.
I would like to be remembered as the person who, wherever she was, wherever she came into contact with someone, whether it was in person or online, created a space where you felt heard. I think, when you create the space for other people to be heard, then you create the space for them to be comfortable in their own skin. And you create the space for them to dance to their own beat. And let it be known that whatever your difference is, it’s all good.